mr_exon

How to modd a RazorPB200 into a 45-60mph monster
Mon, 02/12/2007 - 16:24 — mr_exon

Stock Razor specs:
24volts7amphours cells
30amp controler
200watt motor 11t/65t gears
5 wire twist grip
run time is about 45min to 1 hour
top speed 18mph down a hill, lol

this is a stock RazorPB200
YouTube - Razor PB200

this is it taking on cones!
YouTube - Razor PB200

stock razor doing wheelies
YouTube - Razor PB200

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Stage #1.

36volt upgrade:
36v7ah or 12ah cells
40-50amp controler recomended
3 wire twist grip recomended
200watt motor 11t/65t gears(motor is now 250-300watts after you upgrade to 36v)
Run time is 30min to 2 hours (depends on what size cells you use)
Top speed 26-28mph no problem!

cones much faster
YouTube - Razor PB200

1st speed test
YouTube - Razor PB200

2nd try no faring 27mph
YouTube - Razor PB200

new bike cam mount.....realy cool!
YouTube - Razor PB200

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Stage #2

Upgrades:

500w36 volt motor(custom motor mount required)
50amp 36v controler
still use of 11/65t gears(speed is slower couse of that, ordered new set that week)

test run through the grave yard, lol GP racing
YouTube - Razor PB200

3rd speed test still slow with 11t/65 gears
YouTube - ratbike

4th speed test, my speedo is now failing. had to get a new one(use of 18t/65 gears)
YouTube - PB200 @500watts spd=40+ mph

fly by #2, i know no helmet, but this was when i had no road rash yet...tops out over 30mph nearing 36mph
YouTube - Razor PB200

Maple wood park
YouTube - Razor PB500
YouTube - Razor PB500
YouTube - Razor PB500
YouTube - Razor PB500
chain is almost totally fatigued! gears are popping
YouTube - Razor PB500
a run down of the whole ride
YouTube - Razor PB500

Fly by #3 lol no helmet agen, dont raz me about it! 0ver 40mph
YouTube - Razor PB500 39.7mph Day time

Fly by #4, while my drunken friends wach lol 40+mph
YouTube - Razor PB500-40mph

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Stage #3
RazorPB200 into my Ex-Volt1500z bike
Upgrades: 48 volts

48v@100-150amp controler required
48v12ah cells
1500w china motor 18-28t/65 gears
run time 30min-1.5 hours depends on riding style
top speed: over 60mph no problem!
fully reworked frame to handle the cells and heavy motor
curb weight:70-85 pounds heavy, dont pick her up too fast!

stock to modded bikes
YouTube - close up compare stock with modded
YouTube - small test run

day 5 into a Ex-volt1500z
YouTube - day5

day 6, bike is fully done!
YouTube - day6...need paint and it is done!

In house wheelie at take off!
YouTube - indoor Wheelie

full speed tire expansion
YouTube - full speed tire expansion

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgEeMkFCt6

mr_exon

just got done with the vid.. it is uploading onto youtube as i write this...
it is called 5 min build but it ends up taking me like 8 min to do it all....

to start,all the mechanics have already been installed, this is a vid just for electronics and the easiest wire set up.....just to show how simple it really is to make a EVPB,,,,,,after i got it done i took it up and down the halway here in my wanabe "condo" hallways a couple times.....
lol here they are,

the 5min build
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX1feWgeAms

after the 8min vid that was suposed to be 5 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCGPeUOlPLI

down the hallway test ride
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IkR756NNXU

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worlds fastest PocketBike under300$ invested, this is for Damb sure! oh ya it is ELECTRIC too, has a MOTOR not an engine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgEeMkFCt6

mr_exon

sorry...i need to close these links for a bit...will reopen them later this month

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgEeMkFCt6

Admin

How come you had to take them down?

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mr_exon

I have to prove my bike a bit more, I will post them back to the public soon....

As for if any one wants to still see my vids, they are still on youtube, they are just open to people on my friends list. So do a friend invite and you too will be able to see them....This problem will be solved soon, I am working on a state of the art bike right now, I plan to have it as light as 45-50 pounds. The bike will be set up mid 2007 and be at a couple "American North East Pocket Bike" Races in and around NY..... I will not be giving any info on this bike at this time other then that, it is kinda top secrete right now. Wish me luck

If any one on this forum is up with the topic on CycleForums of mine, The 60mph pass is in a bit of a delay. My controller is completely garbage, and now will not even work! So now i am in the works of ordering an even better controller that is "Name-band" and is "Brandy-new"! "If you know what i mean? " The other problem i ran into was my 36v12ah+12v12ah battery pack is not dumping enuff current(maybe 30amps tops and i need at least 50-60amps to run), so my motor starts to break frequency at mid to high rpm, in other words "Turn on and off really fast!"

Right now on order:

S.V.R. 12v14ah gel cells(300amps can get dumped when needed)
TSP-200-controller 200amps@36-48volts

With that stuff in my bike, it will surely go beyond 60mph!

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worlds fastest PocketBike under300$ invested, this is for Damb sure! oh ya it is ELECTRIC too, has a MOTOR not an engine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgEeMkFCt6

mr_exon

update:
New parts to be used!

Electric Vehicles USA, Inc

1000 Watt 36 VDC Motor

For Scooters and other small EV's.

Voltage:36 VDC. Can be used on 24 volts (about 535 watts)
Output: 1000W @ 36 Volt - 666.6 Watt at 24 Volts
Sprocket: Clutch (freewheeling) 25 Pitch 15 Tooth


any one know the amperage this motor takes?
I think it is a 35amp motor, but i am not sure about that?


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I am having problems with my current set up. I need to upgrade to something a bit better and more "Name Brand".

my set up i have now glitches and bumps a LOT!
Due to the second hand controller that I got from a "nameless".com store that looked like they were ripped out of old return bikes, I never got the bike past even 40mph this time? Three controllers from that place and the same thing happens either it wont torn on or it failed while in use or after a bit of riding. Nuff to say i am kinda let down by all this, I know what i am doing and have all the tools to track down the problems. This brings me to another Point, Now after all the controller problems I now have a motor problem That i now believe was caused from constant controller failure. My brushes seem to be cutting the commutator a bit. This would be caused from a controller dumping full power into the motor in short bursts at high amps. Right?

things to help fix problem:

"Better" controllers to be used with this "new motor":

1) Curtis 1204-00XX controller to use now that some one let me test with.
2) Navitas TSP200 controller that should be here any day now.

At the end of the day, it is all the same. Life goes on and more money is spent. I would have liked to do it right the first time, but you never see that happen, right? My Prized bike is getting gutted today and redone in the next couple days.



Quote from me on cycleforums.com

you would be amaze if you were there on the first run, I really had her whipping around that parking lot. I may have done in the controller just from that. but it had a 0-25mph in as fast as a 3-4 seconds, and topped out under 5 seconds...35mph when it was running strong and geared to race... Laugh at me, I really don't mind. I deserve any and all the punishment you all want to post, I did not make my dead line, but in the end I have learned more in one month about how to make my bike more for racing then i have learned in 2 years messing with EV pocket bikes. I now know i have to reverse every thing i believe in to make the bike work. Don't ask me to get into detail about it, Just know a lot has changed in my shop and in my head. Actually I have not made a bike to sell in over a month now because of all this. E very thing is going to my project bike now, A LOT OF MONEY!

I have to seal up Shakes controller and buy a 5k ohm twist grip for it. then I can use it on a new motor i am ordering tonight or tomorrow.

I am also going to be using a couple other name brand controllers as well this time. cost $150-$300

The motor i am looking at is a I-Zip1000(watt) made by Currie, kinda pricey at almost $200 but you pay for the name, nope more like you pay for it to work.

Actually Every thing on the bike will be name brand this time. Cost more but will work though! I am tired of spending my money on junk electronics, time to spend my money on the good stuff!

Right now i have the whole price list in front of me, many of you could make a hell of a gas bike for what i am about to dish out. I hope it works this time! It has to.....

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgEeMkFCt6

Admin

mr exon, would you want a real blog to do this kinda stuff on?

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