Sales thread bashing

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It seems that users like to comment in other peoples sales threads about how much something costs.

I'd like to remind everyone of the rules which are posted at http://www.pocketbikeforum.com/pocke...rum-rules.html and have not changed since September of 2006. I would think that's plenty of time to read them and become familiar with them.

Specifically I am speaking about these rules
7) Comments are unnecessary in a sales thread. Do not post unless you are asking a legitimate question.

Flames are strictly prohibited. Anyone flaming either a dealer, seller or product will be suspended.

Flaming can be read as bashing, whining, complaining, venting, bitching or anything else that isn't productive to the sales thread. If it's an issue about the veracity of the sellers statement then you MUST have proof of what you're saying/accusing them of BEFORE you post.

You wouldn't want your sale to be trashed because of crap in your thread, so don't do it to other people. If you feel you MUST say something them start a thread in the General section and vent there.

I'm quite liberal of the rules in this forum, but in a recent thread users were told to stop bashing and they kept it up.

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