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*Sleeves* · 01-30-2008, 12:25 PM

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suicidal_rider · 01-30-2008, 05:46 PM

hey, hey, come on guys this is a site for racing, not talking s*** about other riders, and definatly not a place to be posting personal convos!
(we use the honor system ALOT in PB's, but whats past is past)

Now i have nothing to do with this, so im gonna stay out and thats all im gonna say!

device · 01-30-2008, 07:49 PM

hey guys..
they only reason i stepped up was because i have friends here ..i think..and i didnt want them to get real involved without knowing from some they know..blah blah..i felt i should voice my opinion..

and again my opinion is "jerk off" status for him..
cheers guys..i am still around lurking here and there!
take care sleeves..

Pit Boss · 02-05-2008, 03:41 PM

I see Lee hasn't been back to defend himself, but I'm willing to step up and speak on his behalf.

This is a free country, and if someone has personal experiences they wish to share online with others, thats their perogative. They might be right, they might be wrong.

But I hate to see a decent hardworking guys success's and reputation slagged in an online forum ( using pseudonyms ), 1000's of km from home, by strangers.

I met Lee about a year ago at the track, both our boys race for Tsunami Bike now. I can tell you that LKR ( the team of Lee sr. & Lee jr. ) is one of the best equipped, best prepared, and hardest working teams in the OPBRL ( now OMMRA ). They only enter the fastest classes, A/C & L/C, and Lee jr. is always on the podium, usually one of the top 2 steps.
Anyone at the track can see it's due to an incredible commitment of $, time, and energy on the part of Lee sr, as well as jrs. riding. Their trailer is always one of the 1st at every race. When the tents go up and someone needs compresssed air, or 120v power to run a grinder, saw, or welder, or asst spares or advice, they can be sure of finding it at the LKR trailer. They usually bring about 5-8 bikes to every event for racing, spares, jrs. girlfriend, other friends, etc. And Lee sr. wrenches them all. Thats just the visible effort put forth at the track, at other times, this guy is scouring the world for speed tricks and parts, then spending his hard earned cash and time to make it all work. Of course they beat the store bought bikes, DUH!!! Thats not cheating! Thats hard work!

Like I said at the beginning, there's a lot of hard work and commitment involved in their success.

All I'm saying is meet the guy at Calgary in june, and make up your own mind, don't be too quick to destroy reputations based on online sour grapes.

*Sleeves* · 02-05-2008, 04:55 PM

wicked response man , as for the bashing , got to gta , or opbrl , look up rivercitypocketbikes , and see the bashing , as you say 1000 km away ! huh , but just like you , handled it professionally !

lkrace · 02-05-2008, 08:36 PM

Hey Guys,

First off, this will be my only post and then you guys can go on all you want.

I have been bashed more times than I can count and it truly doesn't mean a thing. Nothing changes. We still show up every race and help anyone who needs it, support the sport that we live for and still run circles around the haters who are too chicken to come in our pits and ask for help.

I have been in this sport longer than anybody in Canada and we have worked our way to the top by spending tons of money on the best equipment, learning what the best combinations are, then practicing and racing our brains out.

I kept the racing going in Ontario in 2006 out of my pocket when the club wasn't making enough to pay the track rental and insurance. That was a $10,000.00 loss for me. Would you do the same?

I have been accused of cheating since the first time we won a race back in 2003 and that will never change as long as we keep winning. Racers always think the guy at the front is a cheater. That is the only explanation that most people can find. They won't admit they are inexperienced, lack the necessary talent, maintain there bike like it is a 20 year old lawn mower or plain and simply don't have a bike capable of winning.

Sleeves' you have one of Lee's supposed cheater engines. It is a rocket and when you open it up you will see that it is stock 40cc BZM! He won both the 40cc Open Championship and 50cc Open Championship with that engine. Because of it, Mike banned Lee's 40's from running in 50 in 2007. Because of this, Lee came out on a Chinese Banshee in 50 with a DV Pocketbikes race engine and still whipped everyone's butt. It was a Chinese engine Dan built that I never touched.

There are no secrets in our pits and I will show anyone what we have and how we do it as most things can't be seen. I do things to our parts and engines that most people in this sport have never even heard of. I have been experimenting with space age coatings, heat treating and cryogenic treatings for years. These are things we did to the winning funny car which I was the engine man on and I learned a lot from that.

Yes, I can be slow to ship stuff. That will probably never change as I am always doing the work of three people and have zero memory being an old fart. I apologize for that, but nothing else.

We will be out west this summer and you guys are welcome to come in my pits and tear me a new one if that will make you feel better, but at the end of the day we will still be in our pits helping anyone that needs it, giving free parts to those who need them and jr. will still be out on the track showing the name on the back of his suit to almost everyone.

Peace, I am out.....Lee

device · 02-05-2008, 10:30 PM

well theres a couple of responses..i have to say well written..and in my opinion..does not change a thing for me!..course you never apologised for posting my personal conversation with a friend of mine..but what the heck..
arent we all jerks !
still waiting for that apology that never came..
anyway thats about all i have to say about that..
and yes i remember when you thought you were the only importer of chinese pocketbikes in canada haha cags! funny but yours were the real knocks off with vin numbers and everything..
blah blah..
unless you are racing over at saratoga on vancouver island its not a hope we might meet!
device out ..flame on ..
i am bout done here also!

*Sleeves* · 02-06-2008, 05:19 AM

great , now everyone knows first hand there lkrace!

01-30-2008, 12:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
Sleeves Pocketbike Dealer Join Date: Oct 2005 My Gallery Real Name: ??? Pocketbikes Owned: 2 Location: winnipeg Posts: 2,551	???????????????????????????????????????????? __________________ TRC , Amra , Mra , Smra 06' P1 BMS competition BZM 15.5hp Open 50cc 05' DM Telai - ZPF 18 h.p Open 50cc 08' CBR125r 96' Gsx-r 600 Last edited by Sleeves : 01-30-2008 at 09:26 PM.

01-30-2008, 05:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
suicidal_rider Pocketbike Lord Join Date: Apr 2006 My Gallery Real Name: Jared Frizell Pocketbikes Owned: 4 Location: winnipeg, manitoba Posts: 726	hey, hey, come on guys this is a site for racing, not talking s*** about other riders, and definatly not a place to be posting personal convos! (we use the honor system ALOT in PB's, but whats past is past) Now i have nothing to do with this, so im gonna stay out and thats all im gonna say! __________________ BigBone rider TeamRiverCity Rider Smra 40cc class winner I guess I had an overall finish of 3rd in the 40cc class(Pitster PRO) BUT ONLY CAUSE OF THE TEAM!

01-30-2008, 07:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
device Pocketbike Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 My Gallery Location: Duncan bc ...Left coast Posts: 388	haha hey guys.. they only reason i stepped up was because i have friends here ..i think..and i didnt want them to get real involved without knowing from some they know..blah blah..i felt i should voice my opinion.. and again my opinion is "jerk off" status for him.. cheers guys..i am still around lurking here and there! take care sleeves..

02-05-2008, 03:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
Pit Boss Pocketbike Beginner Join Date: Aug 2007 My Gallery Real Name: Rick Mazur Pocketbikes Owned: 2 Location: Guelph, Ont. Canada Posts: 12	I see Lee hasn't been back to defend himself, but I'm willing to step up and speak on his behalf. This is a free country, and if someone has personal experiences they wish to share online with others, thats their perogative. They might be right, they might be wrong. But I hate to see a decent hardworking guys success's and reputation slagged in an online forum ( using pseudonyms ), 1000's of km from home, by strangers. I met Lee about a year ago at the track, both our boys race for Tsunami Bike now. I can tell you that LKR ( the team of Lee sr. & Lee jr. ) is one of the best equipped, best prepared, and hardest working teams in the OPBRL ( now OMMRA ). They only enter the fastest classes, A/C & L/C, and Lee jr. is always on the podium, usually one of the top 2 steps. Anyone at the track can see it's due to an incredible commitment of $, time, and energy on the part of Lee sr, as well as jrs. riding. Their trailer is always one of the 1st at every race. When the tents go up and someone needs compresssed air, or 120v power to run a grinder, saw, or welder, or asst spares or advice, they can be sure of finding it at the LKR trailer. They usually bring about 5-8 bikes to every event for racing, spares, jrs. girlfriend, other friends, etc. And Lee sr. wrenches them all. Thats just the visible effort put forth at the track, at other times, this guy is scouring the world for speed tricks and parts, then spending his hard earned cash and time to make it all work. Of course they beat the store bought bikes, DUH!!! Thats not cheating! Thats hard work! Like I said at the beginning, there's a lot of hard work and commitment involved in their success. All I'm saying is meet the guy at Calgary in june, and make up your own mind, don't be too quick to destroy reputations based on online sour grapes. __________________ "Crew Chief" for TheBMan riding #106 TEAM TSUNAMI OPBRL - Ontario Pocket Bike Racing League Last edited by Pit Boss : 02-05-2008 at 03:47 PM.

02-05-2008, 04:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
Sleeves Pocketbike Dealer Join Date: Oct 2005 My Gallery Real Name: ??? Pocketbikes Owned: 2 Location: winnipeg Posts: 2,551	wicked response man , as for the bashing , got to gta , or opbrl , look up rivercitypocketbikes , and see the bashing , as you say 1000 km away ! huh , but just like you , handled it professionally ! __________________ TRC , Amra , Mra , Smra 06' P1 BMS competition BZM 15.5hp Open 50cc 05' DM Telai - ZPF 18 h.p Open 50cc 08' CBR125r 96' Gsx-r 600

02-05-2008, 08:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
lkrace Decent Rider Join Date: Dec 2007 My Gallery Real Name: Lee Sr. Pocketbikes Owned: 10 or more Location: Hamilton Posts: 38	Hey Guys, First off, this will be my only post and then you guys can go on all you want. I have been bashed more times than I can count and it truly doesn't mean a thing. Nothing changes. We still show up every race and help anyone who needs it, support the sport that we live for and still run circles around the haters who are too chicken to come in our pits and ask for help. I have been in this sport longer than anybody in Canada and we have worked our way to the top by spending tons of money on the best equipment, learning what the best combinations are, then practicing and racing our brains out. I kept the racing going in Ontario in 2006 out of my pocket when the club wasn't making enough to pay the track rental and insurance. That was a $10,000.00 loss for me. Would you do the same? I have been accused of cheating since the first time we won a race back in 2003 and that will never change as long as we keep winning. Racers always think the guy at the front is a cheater. That is the only explanation that most people can find. They won't admit they are inexperienced, lack the necessary talent, maintain there bike like it is a 20 year old lawn mower or plain and simply don't have a bike capable of winning. Sleeves' you have one of Lee's supposed cheater engines. It is a rocket and when you open it up you will see that it is stock 40cc BZM! He won both the 40cc Open Championship and 50cc Open Championship with that engine. Because of it, Mike banned Lee's 40's from running in 50 in 2007. Because of this, Lee came out on a Chinese Banshee in 50 with a DV Pocketbikes race engine and still whipped everyone's butt. It was a Chinese engine Dan built that I never touched. There are no secrets in our pits and I will show anyone what we have and how we do it as most things can't be seen. I do things to our parts and engines that most people in this sport have never even heard of. I have been experimenting with space age coatings, heat treating and cryogenic treatings for years. These are things we did to the winning funny car which I was the engine man on and I learned a lot from that. Yes, I can be slow to ship stuff. That will probably never change as I am always doing the work of three people and have zero memory being an old fart. I apologize for that, but nothing else. We will be out west this summer and you guys are welcome to come in my pits and tear me a new one if that will make you feel better, but at the end of the day we will still be in our pits helping anyone that needs it, giving free parts to those who need them and jr. will still be out on the track showing the name on the back of his suit to almost everyone. Peace, I am out.....Lee __________________ Father of racer #89 Lee Kuhn Jr. 03,04,05 MMRAC open LC & AC #1 06 MMRAC & OMMRA 40 & 50 Open #1 07 OMMRA 50 Open #2 07 OMMRA 40 Open #1 www.leekuhnjr.com Sponsors: www.tsunamibike.com

02-05-2008, 10:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
device Pocketbike Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 My Gallery Location: Duncan bc ...Left coast Posts: 388	well said well theres a couple of responses..i have to say well written..and in my opinion..does not change a thing for me!..course you never apologised for posting my personal conversation with a friend of mine..but what the heck.. arent we all jerks ! still waiting for that apology that never came.. anyway thats about all i have to say about that.. and yes i remember when you thought you were the only importer of chinese pocketbikes in canada haha cags! funny but yours were the real knocks off with vin numbers and everything.. blah blah.. unless you are racing over at saratoga on vancouver island its not a hope we might meet! device out ..flame on .. i am bout done here also!

02-06-2008, 05:19 AM	#18 (permalink)
Sleeves Pocketbike Dealer Join Date: Oct 2005 My Gallery Real Name: ??? Pocketbikes Owned: 2 Location: winnipeg Posts: 2,551	great , now everyone knows first hand there lkrace! __________________ TRC , Amra , Mra , Smra 06' P1 BMS competition BZM 15.5hp Open 50cc 05' DM Telai - ZPF 18 h.p Open 50cc 08' CBR125r 96' Gsx-r 600 Last edited by Sleeves : 02-06-2008 at 05:29 AM.

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